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, individuals freely choosing to help. but what enough of us help? most people say no. that's why literals like some columnists say when it comes to helping the needy, that's mostly government's job? well, listen, it would be great if people all reached into their hearts and solved all these horrible problems we have. but history teaches us that doesn't happen in almost every single case where there is a government program, it exists because the private efforts that you and i both admire weren't enough. >> well, it's because politicians said they weren't enough and we could do better. but i would argue that if government didn't take so much of our money, the private sector would take care of these problems. >> hold on a second. for instance, look at older americans. they used to be the poorest sector of our society. then something called social security came along. and medicare came along and now older people really do comparatively fairly well. before food stamps we had hungry kids spread all across america. those numbers were cut dramatically by that, despite all the generous churches and nic
the obama administration's self-imposed deadline to fix the website millions need to use in the next two weeks or they might not have insurance come january 1. many of those folks had insurance before the law, but it was cancelled as a result of it. tonight a growing number of signs that the obama administration has real fears the site could crash and burn again. it went out for an hour, just on monday. this morning, fox news confirmed that the administration is telling supporters they should not rush to visit health care.gov in the coming days. isn't that the purpose? they need all the people to sign up. but the message is don't go. not many of you anyway. there are still concerns about how much the site can handle. that's a real problem for the millions of americans who have seen their insurance policies cancelled and must sign up for coverage. must sign up by december 23 in order for them and their families to have coverage in the new year. 5,500,000 people who had insurance, many of whom were happy with the insurance, got their policies cancelled thanks to this law. and now may not h
truly the joke is on all of us. >> that's not a hangover monologue, i don't know. >> you think president obama is crushed that he has lost the stars? >> couldn't get the web site up. >> they cut away, the song is funny it was about two minutes long we showed 35 seconds. it was hilarious they cut to the audience, the real true republican conservatives the heart and soul of the country laughing and all of the seat fillers who aren't even supposed to be there just there because they want to be there on tv they are all nervous they are looking around should i laugh? >> they don't want to laugh because they don't want to cast an irs line. >> you did see the stars laughing. >> do you find it funny? you were shaking your head. >> i thought i heard beat every time you said a word. this is my first time on the show. do they bleep you out when you do these? >> no, that was your conscience speaking. i think you were in time even when you are on the left and i think the right has to have a sense of humor. we have to have a sense of humor. >> the thing about humor is the right will find something fun
could keep it. if it hasn't changed since the law's passed. >> so does he really expect us to accept this change in language after being told this multiple times for multiple years? >> under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. period. >> if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. >> if americans like their doctor, they will keep their doctor. if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. to one will be able to take that away from you. >> if you're one of the more than 250 million americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. >> if you like yush health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan, period. >> we've got a simple and perhaps provocative question tonight. is the president of the united states a liar? eric, the president's excuse on this one is not passing the sm
it's what you've got. show us what you've got, what you can do. it's a wide open country for opportunity for all. i'll eat turkey, be surrounded by my large american family. i'll give thankslike you. god bless everyone. >> hello everyone. happy thanksgiving. i'm kimberly with bob, dana, angela. this is the five. >>> all right. happy turkey day everybody. we're thankful to have you with us tonight. we're thankful for our troops and so many other things on this unique american holiday. happy hanukkah to those celebrating. let's kick off with great interviews with college students and campus reform. we wanted to know what students know about thanksgiving. it wasn't pretty. >> people from -- >> ireland -- >> traveled to north america on a boat called the -- >> oh? >> pilgrims landed on a spot called -- >> america. >> the pilgrims encountered thousands of -- >> indians. >> native americans were excellent -- >> arrow shooters. >> tepee makers. >> pilgrims were good at -- >> taking people's land. >> ouch. let's hope none of those are american history majors. might be a problem b
. why does mr. obama continue to mislead us? tonight, we will tell you in the talking points memo. >> i don't know how you keep your cool, madam secretary, you know, with this continuous effort on the part of the g.o.p. to sabotage the aca. >> almost desperate now, the democratic party is trying to blame the republicans for the obama care debacle. will that work? we have no spin analysis. ♪ joy to the world ♪ the savior reigns. >> once again, school district tries to ban christmas carols even though a court has refute united stated -- repudiated that. megyn kelly on the case. the factor. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the end justifying the means. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. we are in the twilight zone. america has entered another dimension. yesterday in boston president obama continued his campaign of mislead leading statements. >> now, if you had one of these substandard plans before the affordable care act became law, and you really like that plan, you a
. and for him to say it's caused by a situation, that's the word he used in the operative sentence. we, this week, mark the one-year anniversary of his re-election. has there ever, with the exception of richard nixon, 1973, been a worst first year of a second term? >> and democratic strategist james carville also had some amusing advice for the president. >> i think the best thing he can do is take a toke on the mayor of toronto's crack pipe because his numbers are about -- >> all right. we're going to get to all of those stories. eric, one of the reasons the president's poll numbers are bad across the board, which we're going to get to, but you have to pin a lot of it on the health care law and obama care. there was news just released from "the wall street journal" that i think our viewers would love to know. >> "the wall street journal" estimates that somewhere between 40,000 and 50,000 people enrolled in obama care in the month of october. so that means extrapolated out about 50,000 for the month. it would take 140 months to get to their 7 million number they want in march or 11 yea
for barack obama is caused by a situation that's the word he used in the operative sentence. we mark the one year anniversary of his reelection. has there ever been with the exception of richard nixon been a first year of a second term? >> democratic strategist james carville had amusing advice for the president. >> i think the best thing he can do is take a tobing on the mayor of toronto's crack pipe. his numbers were 48. there you go. >> we are going to get to all of those stories. one of the reasons the president's poll numbers are bad across the board which we will get to in a bit because there's a lot on the healthcare law and obamacare. >> the wall street journal estimates somewhere between 40 and 50,000 people enrolled in obamacare in the month of october. that means extrapolated out so that means 50,000 for the month. it would take 140 months to get to the 7 million number they want in march and 11 years. his polls are sliding. i want to be on tv friday when they announce how many the real numbers are. i have a hunch that is right>> how many millions does it cost per person to get to
americans less caring of others. we see the needy becoming seedy. and that makes us hate obama care more. apparently this writer has never been to a church but he failed to see the dependency that hurts the needy most as government expands and opportun dwindles. only the moron would think a solution to the welfare state is more welfare. we're still the most generous country ever. now thanks to obama care the ruse that government impacts -- our government is lessen forcing its favorite solution, more government one choice. fact is nothing good ever comes from coercion or you wouldn't need coercion and that includes charity, especially when those in charge are more charitable to themselves than to others. i didn't sneeze at all. hey, juan, are you there? >> i'm right here. i'm glad you're feeling better. >> actually i feel terrible. but when i see you my soul brightens up. you got an invite from the white house asking to see you last night. how long did you wait to respond? did you play hard to get? >> you know, me, i didn't even want to go over. unless they are serving good food, i want t
truly the joke on s on all of us. >> that's a hang over monologue. >> at a time, i don't know. >> do you think president barack obama is crushed eric that he's lost the stars of the country music scene? >> couldn't get it -- >> couldn't get the website up. >> got you. >> so they cut away. the song was funny. it was about two minutes long. we took 35 seconds. we should have done the whole thing. they cut to the audience. you see the real true conservative republicans heart and soul of the country laughing and hollywood seat fillers who aren't supposed to be there, just there because they're supposed to be on tv. they're nervous like should i laugh? i'm on tv. >> they don't want to cast the irs on it. the audience is going to go oh yeah we're coming to get you. >> hats off to paisley and what's her name. >> first of all i thought i heard beeps every time you said a word. is this my first time in the show. do they beep you out? >> no. that was your conscious speaking. i think humor is fine even when on the left. i think the right needs to have a sense of humor. we have to have a sense of h
the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> hi, i am bill o'reilly. thank you for watching us tonight. president obama getting in deeper and deeper. that is the subject of today's talking points member. it is beyond a reasonable doubt the president misled americans about obamacare. we are tired of hearing his past statements we will be able to allow hour same insurance. he should admit it and he doesn't. instead he went into a tore torous explanation. >> we wrote into the affordable care act. you are grandfathered in on that plan. if the insurance company changes is, then what we are saying is they have to change it to a higher standard. they have to make it better. they have to improve the quality of the plan they are selling. that's part of the promise we made, too. that's why we went out of our way to make sure that the law allowed for grouped fathering. >> talking points admits there's not a grandfather in the entire country who knows what the president is talking about. the truth is, insurance companies change their policies all of the time. if they do not comply with obamacare y
too many americans from competing the enrollment process. that's on us. i'll have to win back credibility. that's on me. that's on us. that's on me. not on them, on us. this one is deserved. it's on us. >> after years of lying about his signature health care law and weeks after it launched disastrous result, those words you heard are president barack obama and for a good reason. a fox poll shows most americans thinks the president knowly lied to get the obama care passed. not a good place to be. today he offered a solution to stop the bleeding and attempt to salvage a legacy. >> people that have plans predating the affordable care act can keep those plans if they haven't changed. today we're going to extend both to people who's plans have changed since the law took effect and people who bought plans since the law took effect. >> ask yourself, can we really take president barack obama seriously? it's been six weeks since the law's failed launch. the question remain, how did we get here? we shouldn't be asking obama because he doesn't know. >> i was not informed correctly the w
politicians use these stories like sam in iowa, i was on a farm and met john, a small business openeiusiness ow. they can bite politicians if they're not vetted properly. this turns out to be a horror story much like the woman who was on the website who wasn't even a citizen. w >> you know you're in trouble like a grade school version of pip pippin. obama realizes laughter is really the best medicine and obama care lowers your stress by being hilariously incompetent tent. so in a way he's making us all feel better by being such a disaster. but i have to say, the big question here is this problem for him temporary or is it forever. because he's been able to extricate himself from everything and move on as if nothing has happened. but this feels like quick sand. this is his greatest achievement and flimsier than his first pitch. i don't know how he gets out of this. >> this was a bad pitch. >> the greater good is now the worser bad. he taught everybody when big government succeeds, big government is evil. >> and if you look forward to 2014, you have to anticipate a lot of these businesses are
of us wanted and when the democrats took over both the house and the senate and the white house there was still hope you could push that through and then it became clear the insurance companies weren't going to allow that so they fell back under obama care. >> eric, what do you think? from day one it seems like this is what they have wanted. >> we have been talking about that's the ultimate goal. it's the only thing that would actually work in their world. what they're trying to do is a qazi hybrid government run versus capital health care system. it's not going to happen. if they said give us your best price and public option comes in over here and they try to undercut the private companies people on the right would say that's not fair trade. that's not capitalism. but now we're forced to buy something. you're forced on to the system. but i have to take a step back. take a step back and take a deep breath. this system stinks. this system is horrible. it can't work. young people aren't signing up. forget the website. that's going to bubble up soon. deductibles, premiums are goin
they have used to try to cloak and provide him some kind of cover has served him the worst. >> 106,185. we are not sure how many of those are paid. interesting, barry, in that number. we don't know how many of those 106,000 are young people. they are very important. also 3-to-1 signed up at the state level rather than the federal level. what are these numbers telling you? >> these are selected plans. they may be in people's shopping carts but they haven't purchased. in order for them to be counted you have to pay a premium. that's how you calculate getting a plan. the first premium is paid. that's not happened yet. these numbers are a bunch of bologna. remember they changed the formula to make sure the jobs number would look rosie for them. they are all about changing the languages. now they are changing the math. we don't know how many of these people are young, we don't know how many are healthy. you need healthy people in the system. also they have been lying to us about a number of different things. i have to call democrats out on something else. they are continuing to lie to us. this
:00 in new york city, this is "the five." big show today. lots to get to. including iran crushing us at the nuclear bargaining table leaving only our key ally israel alone and surrounded by people who want to kill them. some big storms that may make it harder for you to get home this thanksgiving. we'll tell you who's going to get hit and when. first, more dishonest from the white house on obama care. americans don't trust the administration and for good reason. they haven't been straight forward about anything. "the new york times," of all places, reporting over the weekend what we told you about all along. the president's health care law is about taking from one group and giving to another. aka redistributing. here's the key quote from "the new york times," reminding us what the administration has been trying to hide all along. quote, the redistribution of wealth has always been a central feature of the law and lies at the heart of insurance market disruptions driving political attacks this fall. conservatives like me think he's a socialist. but the president doesn't always see it
the republican candidates have the edge according to a cnn poll just out. there used to be a 12-point swing in the democrats' favor. and now it's a two-point swing in the republicans' favor versus just a month ago. just a month ago, chris. now, obviously, that has to do with the health care law. i mean, that's what's happened over the past month. but what -- is this meaningful to people on capitol hill, or is that just, whatever, you have a poll, lots of polls. >> oh, no, this one's meaningful. especially remember this. republicans to win congress the last time at this point before the 2010 cycle, the democrats were up six points. republicans seldom lead in this measure. so for them to be ahead at all is significant, and people, they know. but how about this? and this is far more significant. the white house has enforced valerie jarrett and company have enforced a truce or at least a blackout among democrats complaining about this law until they have their relaunch for the website and other parts of it at the end of this month. be quiet, we'll see what we get, and then we'll talk again. ove
've had a great weekend. you're hitting the ground running. tell us, do you believe pelosi when she says the democrats are standing tall and that when he says they've got nothing to worry about? >> i tell you, they are very disciplined. they had a caucus. the ones that voted for the republican bill are ones who clearly are in marginal districts. i think what he said has some merit. there will be millions signed up for this. for better or for worse. that means you're going to be taking on people who now have insurance because of the affordable care act. and do you really want to take them on? >> well, eric, every day that goes by, we get a little bit closer, because of all the fixes the administration is announcing. a little bit closer to what republicans are asking for in the first place. >> okay, first, regarding what he said, you said millions will sign up. i can't make that assumption. maybe millions will be thrown off their insurance also. two pieces of news that you pointed out. the fixes. nancy pelosi said you have to fix it before you find out what's in it. she's right. over the w
would be a slow rollout. we used the analogy last night the stripper with the cold sore. she is still a stripper with a cold sore. you realize what obama care is the enrollment numbers won't come anywhere near what they expect it to be or want it to be they realize they have nothing to run on. >> my suggestion wouldn't be delay it as republicans. i would say let's get this thing over with or fix it. >> what has been successful increase in medicaid in the states where they have not screwed around with it. >> how is that successful? all you have done is put more people on the dull and no people to pay for the people. >> if we had a single payer plan everybody would be covered. >> stop calling it single care plan calli it socialism. he loves to poif vo-- pivot. he should start blaming obamacare on global warming. he should start replacing consumers with windmills that would give him the climb gnat change to get him away from obamacare. >> i hate to get into this. >> you don't know crap about that. you want to get into that i will go head to head. >> dana, when over 3 million people. 3.2
, everybody. we are thankful to have you with us tonight, and we're thankful for our troops and so many other things this unique american holiday. happy hanukkah to all those that are celebrating. let's kick things off with some great interviews by the college news website campus reform. one of the reporters wanted to find out how much college students actually know about the history of thanksgiving. wasn't pretty. >> the pilgrims, a group of people from? >> ireland? >> traveled to north america on a boat called the? >> oh! >> pilgrims landed in north america on a spot called. >> north america. >> and when the mayflower landed they encountered thousands of. >> indians. >> the native americans were excellent. >> arrow shooters? >> tepee makers. >> the pilgrims were really good at? >> taking people's land. >> ouch. let's hope none of them are american history majors. it might be a problem. bringing those grades home to the parents. eric, what do you make of this? >> bob and i are looking at our football picks. >> you weren't paying close attention. >> not a surprise. young kids, it's amazing ho
. we'll begin with you. >> the president used a golf analogy. i had the same thought as greg. subpar. thought it was a pretty sorry apology. it might satisfy a few people in the media who were looking for a reason to try to move on and try to help the president in some way. i think because it seemed so insincere and immediately was panned for many people, responsible journalists, like at national review, if you're going to apologize, you have to go all in. he said it in a passive voice, not the active voice. the other part of this is there's no action plan behind it. it wasn't i'm sorry and then the president of the united states and therefore i am going to do these three things to make it better. there's no follow-through, which is just, sorry, life sucks. >> sometimes sorry isn't good enough. we learned that, mr. bolling. >> subpar is good in golf. talking about subpar plan. kind of like, i'm sorry i punched you in the face and i'm sorry you're bleeding. he can apologize all he wants but it doesn't fix the big lie. you can keep your plan, a lie. you can -- remember this one, it's g
. so greg, before we get into the poll numbers, most politicians use these stories like sam in iowa. i was on a farm and i met john, a small business owner. they can come back and bite politicians if they're not vetted properly. this one turns out to be a horror story much like the woman they initially put on the website who wasn't even a citizen. now two women are embarrassed. >> yeah. you know you're in trouble when your props are falling apart. i think obama is a genius because he realizes that laughter is really the best medicine. and obama care, in a way, lowers your stress by being hilariously incompetent. so in a way he's making us all feel better by being such a disaster. but i have to say the big question here is is this problem for him temporary or is it forever? because he's been able to extricate himself from everything and move on. but this to me feels like quicksand. this is his greatest achievement and it's filmsier than his bad pitch. >> this was a bad pitch. >> the greater good is now the worser bad. he's taught everybody that when big government succeeds, big governme
'll do it. >> so that's what they want you to do. brian joins us today. >> yes. >> that's what they want you to do over thanksgiving. >> role play? role play? i'll be the nasty self-obsessed child who doesn't want to get health insurance so they feel they can get a slice of life that will alarm people to go out and get health care. it's not going to be effective. no one sits down at the table even on thanksgiving. they're grabbing stuff, going, watching football, talking to their cousins. i am fascinated by the role play slice of life acting that's going on right now. are they casting or fixing it? >> sounds like you don't have fun role play, that that's sort of your problem. >> you have other kinds -- anyway. >> yes. >> so the table, obama care. any chance? >> it's just so pathetic. this is so desperate because they need the young, healthy people. they have to suck the money out of the young, healthy people to float this leaky boat. that's the problem. they're saying okay, appeal to the parents, appeal to the youth because they have to get people to buy into this health care ponzi schem
this language they use to try to provide him some cover which actually has served him the worst. >> let's shine the light on the numbers. 106,185, that's a total, we're not sure how many of those are paying. kind of interesting buried in that number, we don't know how many people of those 106,000 are young people. they're very important. also, 3-1 signed up at the state level rather than the federal level. what are these numbers telling you? >> we also know that these are selected plans. we talked about this yesterday. these may be plans that are inp they haven't purchased. in order for them to be counted, you have to pay a premium. that's how you calculate getting a plan. the first premium is paid. has not happened yet. so these numbers are just a bunch of baloney. it's what they did right before the presidential election. they changed the formula to make sure the jobs number would look rosy. they're all about changing the language. now they're changing the math. as you pointed out, we don't know how many of these people are young. we don't know how many are healthy. because you need healthy p
on this home. look for us at p. >>> hello. everyone. i'm greg greg greg gutfeld filld the rest. it's 5:00 o'clock somewhere. >>> remember way back when you noted failures like solyndra, the media called you racist? apology accepted. remember when you were curious about fast and furious? the media called you racist.me apologmby accepted. remember when you questioned the health care bill at town halls? that hadn't you hated black people. apology accepted. remember the tea parties uniting over small government. they were called bigots. apology accepted. remember your anger that the irs targeted obama critics. hat that meant you hated a black from the time. remember as you from the timed a over the economy, msnbc called you racist for expecting betterb apology accepted. remember benghazi? just saying that made you racist. accepted. remember when voting for obama once, but not twice, meant you were racist from the start? apology accepted. yes, i'm a forgiving time, for it's time to retire this racialism. the engine that enabled the obamacare disaster. a disaster that in its present stat
always been something a lot of us wanted. when the democrats took over both the house and the senate and the white house, there was still a lot of hope you could push that through. then it became increasingly clear the insurance companies were not going to allow that so they fell back under obama care. >> from day one, it seems like this is what they've wanted. >> they've always -- we've been talking about that's the ultimate goal, single payer. it's the only thing that would actually work in their world. what they're trying to do is cause a hybrid capitalist versus government-run health care system that's just not working. because they're trying to mandate it. if they gave the option, they said, here are the health care companies, give us your best price, and public option comes in over here. they try and undercut the private companies. people on the right, like me, would say, well, that's not fair trade, that's not capitalism. but it's better than what we have right here. because now we're forced to buy something. you're forced on to the system. i have to take one step back. i was
he doesn't have to clean. none of those experts are using obama care. in effect it is their public bathroom. you can use it. >> somebody elts has to clean it up. >> the obama administration and the white house did lie to the american people? >> i would spend every waking hour absorbing everything i could about it. listen, we think that they lied? did they mislead? my asufrmsumption is you look a this stuff somebody certainly did no question about that. back to the point ezekiel did not quite get it outright. if you had a policy you demanded you keep it but the insurance companies you would have had it. >> but that is what the white house has tried over the last several days to try to say, don't blame us. all we are trying to do is provide insurance for everybody. blame the insurance companies they are the ones who changed the policy. but they changed it because they were asked to and required to under the law. >> they weren't required to. >> this was part of the dana perino psychic news. you said this is what they would say. it's always someone else's fault the facts match somethin
and make sure it runs smoothly. i want you all to meet pat connors. >> hello, everyone. >> don't hello us, pat. this is -- you are responsible for it now and it is not working out what a the hell are you going to do about it? >> oh. well, i'm just sort of getting acclimated to the situation. >> getting lack mated? do you know how much money we waste order this thing? how much you take some damned responsibility? get out of here. you are fired! get out! >> here is some advice from bill clinton. >> so i personally believe that even if it takes changing the law, the president should honor the commitment to the federal government made though-to-those people and let them keep what they've got. >> thanks, bubba. all right. it looks like the president was backed -- >> i'm sorry i'm laughing. >> you don't like the music. >> it was like they made it at home on a youtube individual go first let's go "south park" even though you were laughing more about bill clinton than "south park." they are going after the administration. >> right. you can look at any comedy show when obama care has been going on
for us at 8:00 p.m. tonight. >>> hello, everyone, i'm greg gotfeld. it's dana perino. it's 5:00 somewhere. >>> remember way back when, when you noted failures, the media called you a racist? remember when you were curious about fast and furious, the media called you a racist? apology accepted. remember the tea parties uniting other small government? they were called bigots too? apology accepted. remember your anger that the irs targeted obama critics, that meant your hated a black president, apology accebeing a . remember as you fretted over the economy msnbc called you racist for expecting better. apology accepted. remember benghazi? apology accepted. remember when voting for obama once but not twice meant you were racist from the start? apology accepted. yes, i'm a forgiving type. it's time to retire the engine that enabled the obama care disaster. a disaster that in its present state causes much suffering to americans, minorities included. if you disagree with me, you're racist. why else would you defend this abject failure? it's the bigotry of low standards. you just don't expect comp
supporter. this is their cover this week. the man who used to walk on water. and this is representative of how the media finally is starting to look at the policy bringing down the politics. >> and "time." >> brian, your take? >> disappointed. to me, you lived it, excuse me to live this example, i just watched it. when the occupation iraq was going poorly, the president made a decision to get an iraqi study group together on both sides. that's how bad it was. it took six months. they got a series answers. he ended up firing his generals. and with the surge ends up making military history. he got both sides involved. that's where we're at right now with the obama care. i'm not a health care expert but you don't have to be to see what's going wrong. this plan is not workable. why does he not realize that? why are we worried about poll numbers? this is not working. it's a disaster. why does he not acknowledge it? why are liberals marching into the white house to get a message down? why are we having nuclear talks on thursday about 51 votes? this is an emergency. he would defuse a lot of re
the government shutdown people said they are not traveling for thanksgiving. >> i'm using the government shutdown for everything. >> forgot to pay your taxes. >> i'm not going to visit my family, government shutdown. >> it made sense during the shutdown because some of the smaller airports didn't have air traffic controllers. but now, i can't imagine what it is. by the way, most every airline flew during the shutdown as far as i knew. >> what he was alluding to, that somehow people were so worried what was going to happen with the government shutdown they made decisions based on the government shutdown. >> who would these people be. everyone i talked with are concerned about stuffing their face with turkey. maybe if you sign up for obama care there's a box you can check to become a aaa member or some kind of quid pro quo. >> no government shutdown for turkey. >> turkeys have to work no matter what. >> we'll talk about the real topic. obama care. nbc news reports large employers citing obama care cadillac tax and fox news reporting 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage can
destroyed a bathroom that he didn't have to clean. none of these experts are using obama care. so it's -- in effect, it's their public bathroom. >> somebody else will have to clean it up. >> exactly. >> bob, was it taken this weekend that the administration, the white house, did lie to the american? >> i spent every waking hour myself reading about this and absorbing everything i could on it. >> you should. >> i didn't spend a minute on it. no, listen, my assumption is, somebody certainly did, no question about that. i still get back to this point that ezekiel did not quite get it outright. if you had a policy and you demanded that you keep it with the insurance companies, you would have had it. insurance company changed it on you. >> that is what the white house has tried, kimberly, over the last several days, which is try to say, don't blame us, all we're trying to do is provide insurance for everybody. blame the insurance companies. they're the ones who changed the policy. they changed it because they were asked to and required to under the law. >> they weren't required, that's an
with res you. >> i noticed the presidentan used a golf analogy. i had the same thought as greg, sub par. i thought it it was a sorry apology. it may satisfy a few people in the media who want to move on and help the president in a someway, but because it is so insincere and paned by many journalists that if you are going to apologize you have to go all in.e you have to seriously apologize. he said it in theto passive voice and not thee active voice. the other part is there was nohr active plan. i am sorry. i am the president of the united states and therefore i i' will do these three things to make it better. it was like, yeah, sorry, life o sucks. >> and sometimes sorry is not good enough. >> sub par is good in golf, first of all.omet >> oh, it is? >> yeah. it is kind of like i'm sorry i pumped you in -- i punched you in the face and i'm sorry you are bleeding.t >> and you can't keep your health care. >> he can apologize all hepu wants , but it doesn't fix the big lie. you can keep are yo do -- your doc. a lie. you can keep your plan x a lie.lie. remember it will bend the cost curve dow
the way i did, i used itunes, seamless, netflix and hulu for getting my food and movies. i had thousands and thousands upon options before me that i could use to make my life better. i chose the food from thousands of menus in the city. i picked the songs that i wanted and the movies that i watched. that's the way -- >> who's better than you? >> no, but what i'm saying is that is the direction of our country is options. and meanwhile, what you have is a white house that is going in the opposite direction, a one-size-fits-all model that is basically patterned after east germany. somebody has to point out that he is going in the wrong direction. >> they don't care. that's the problem. it's like me trying to shove last year's winter boots on ronan. they just don't fit. >> i thought you were going to talk about my jeans. you putting on my jeans. let me ask you something about the president's poll numbers because across the board today, even after the president announced his fix on thursday, over the weekend, all the different polling groups came out and said the president's approval numbers
is going to -- really going to bankrupt us. i still don't think they're going to have people sign up. they have doctor shortage, lack of people enrolling, premiums going through the roof because of adverse selection and the employer mandate which is the biggest issue set to drop in ten months. >> bob, the question, i'm sitting there waiting, probably an hour and a half hearing, senators like to talk, they like to hear themselves speak. who made the call to go october 1st knowing very well there was security risks and the website wasn't ready. >> first of all, let me say, i'm sweating a little bit because i went to the new york marathon a day late. i thought it was -- >> great effort, though. >> it was. >> max baucus, the chairman of the finance committee was a client of mine for many years. max is the kind of guy that's very quiet. he's also the one that wrote this law and said way back four or five months ago, there's a train wreck coming if you're not careful about the implementation of this. i've talked to baucus about it. and he said he doesn't have a problem with the plan itself
are going to begin with you. >> i noticed the president used a golf analogy. sub par. i thought it was sorry apology. a few people in the media trying to move on and help the president. because it seemed so insincere. if you are going to apologize, you have to go all in. seriously apologize. he said it in a passive voice. it wasn't i'm sorry, therefore i'm going to do these three things. he's like sorry, life sucks. >> sometimes sorry isn't good enough. >> subpar is good in golf. >> it is? >> kind of like i'm sorry i punched you in the face and you are bleeding, but i'm not going. he can apologize for the big lie. the broken promise, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. it's going to bend the cost curve down, another lie. he promised $2500 lower in family health premiums. three years into it being a law, it's literally the exact opposite. $1281 higher than when we signed it into the law. check's in the mail. >> this isn't looking too good for the president. greg? >> yeah. i'm still mad you took my golf joke. >> no, i came up with it myself. >> oh, please. >> kindergarten alert.
's on me. that's on us. it's on me, it's not on them, it's on us.e this one is on us. >> after years of lying about the signature healthcare law an weeks after this launched to disastrous results those words you heard are president obama's mia cull paw for a good reason. most americans think the president knowingly lied to get obamacare passed.y not a good place for the president to be. today he offered a solution to stop the pleading in an attempt to salvage his legacy. >> those who have plans that op predate the affordable care act can keep those plans if they haven't changed. today we are going to extend that principle both to people whose plans have changed since the law that took effect and the people who bought plans since b the law took effect. >> so ask yourself can we take president obama seriously? it has been six weeks since the lost failed launch. how did we get here? we shouldn't ask obama. he doesn't know. >> i was not informed directly the web site would not be working the way it was supposed to. had i beeno informed i wouldn't be going out saying this is going to b
or not eligible. - >> juan, they took away the requirement to have a child. you used to be eligible for medicaid.ow y now anyone can get it. itib costs nothing! the states that you're eligible to took that medicaid money, millions will be enrolling and we're on the hooke dana, jay carney also said the a reason for all of this, the reason for six enrollees is solely because of the web site. here is carney. >> let me just tell you now, ont november 1, we don't expectmber those numbers to be very high'te and we never did.ry but they're going to be even lower because of the challenges we've had with the web site. >> that's interesting. he says they never did know thah becausee earlier in the week, te answer was that the president had no idea that the web site was not going to work. they constantly try have it both ways and that's annoying. i am surprised that the experts seemed so surprised about consumer behavior. if you can't get on to the web site, you're not going to be able to shop around. can as the president said, just shop around. that's not work. plus, when you go on,le if you decide, if yo
? >> reporter: to be honest, senior officials who have heard all of us say before his presidency is done, he's a lame duck, pick your story, benghazi, syria, backpedal and going to congress, the vote was looking like it was going to go down. then he says don't vote. let me talk to the american people instead. they kind of laugh off the idea that his presidency is over because they insist that we've sort of written the obituary before. the problem now is number one, he's further along in his presidency, about to begin his second year of the second term. so time is finally running out, number one. and number two, what i mentioned about people not just being upset about the health care law but finally connecting it to the president and losing some trust in him, that makes it that much harder. what they're really fearful of is not just being unable to fully implement the health care law, but that he's not going to get anything else in his second term. immigration reform, a grand bargain budget deal. all of that is certainly on the back burner, to say the least. >> hey, ed. how's it going? >> rep
of alaska told us he has been screaming at the white house his words yelling at them to do a better job of figuring out the web site, giving people more con if i p -- confidence crisis in confidence. another up for reelection said there's a crisis in confidence as to whether or not the administration can get this web site fixed. if you push that enrollment deadline beyond march of 2014 what are you going to do? three months, six months you might be pushing it right up against the election even more of a referendum in that election make it a bigger issue than democrats want. >> there's a chorus of this line there's a crisis of confidence. it comes down to competence and just one step below. it's a millimeter below saying it's incompetent. here's the thing i am concerned about for my friends in the communications office. am it is not a communications problem. we need you to give more speeches, do we really think that's going to help? >> it's my understanding it goes beyond speeches. we should point out it was a two-hour meeting that's a long meeting. it isn't a half hour drive by. the vic
piece to this whole puzzle. >> so i've heard. >> ed, thank you for hanging out with us for 12 minutes or so this evening. >>> ahead, it's a vicious game and gangs of teens across the country are playing it. it's called knockout and they're hurting innocent, unsuspecting victims. we'll tell you a story you probably won't hear anywhere else but fox. >>> and it's been almost 50 years since jfk was assassinated. would he be welcome in today's democrat party? coming up on "the five." ♪ [ male announcer ] this december, experience the gift of exacting precision and some of the best offers of the year [ ding! ] at the lexus december to remember sas event. this is the pursuit of perfection. at the lexus december to remember sas event. have hail damage to both their cars. ted ted is trying to get a hold of his insurance agent. maxwell is not. he's on geico.com setting up an appointment with an adjuster. ted is now on hold with his insurance company. maxwell is not and just confirmed a 5:30 time for tuesday. ted, is still waiting. yes! maxwell is out and about... with ted's now ex-girlfriend.
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